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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://jon.netdork.net/2008/12/14/spammy-harvesting/comment-page-1#comment-756</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 00:11:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Al,
Whilst the goals of KNUJON are interesting, I cannot see how it&#039;d fix the issue of stopping spam. Seeing as a majority of spam ends up coming from spam bots that are installed on infected clients, forwarding messages usually only results in the client sending being identified. Even worse, most of the control for those botnets are outside, making it difficult to prosecute those involved.  As David mentioned on his follow-up to your comment over there, not many cases have been successfully prosecuted.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Al,
Whilst the goals of KNUJON are interesting, I cannot see how it&#8217;d fix the issue of stopping spam. Seeing as a majority of spam ends up coming from spam bots that are installed on infected clients, forwarding messages usually only results in the client sending being identified. Even worse, most of the control for those botnets are outside, making it difficult to prosecute those involved.  As David mentioned on his follow-up to your comment over there, not many cases have been successfully prosecuted.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Al Macintyre</title>
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		<dc:creator>Al Macintyre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 22:12:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I tried multiple anti-spam approaches before KNUJON which I now love.  I forward all my spam to them.  They sort it along with spam from many other people, according to the nature of the criminal activity (phishing, identity theft, conterfeiting, piracy, whatever) and report the troublemakers to the relevant e-police (US Secret Service (protect nation&#039;s currency), FBI, SEC (goes after people with fraudulent stock swindles), whatever agency fights whatever crime it is).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This has led to tens of thousands of spam perpetrators being apprehended by law enforcement &amp; brought to justice.  I suggest you check out KNUJON, consider contributing to their effort.  For example, about a month ago they mapped out that 90% of cyber crime was supported by about 20 domain registrars that deliberately violate ICANN rules on whosis etc. so they started a campaign to get ICANN to enforce its own rules, and close down the criminal registrars.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;More info
http://www.knujon.com/news.html
http://packetfocus.com/proactive/index.php&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I found you because of a mutual contact on Linked In&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tried multiple anti-spam approaches before KNUJON which I now love.  I forward all my spam to them.  They sort it along with spam from many other people, according to the nature of the criminal activity (phishing, identity theft, conterfeiting, piracy, whatever) and report the troublemakers to the relevant e-police (US Secret Service (protect nation&#8217;s currency), FBI, SEC (goes after people with fraudulent stock swindles), whatever agency fights whatever crime it is).</p>

<p>This has led to tens of thousands of spam perpetrators being apprehended by law enforcement &amp; brought to justice.  I suggest you check out KNUJON, consider contributing to their effort.  For example, about a month ago they mapped out that 90% of cyber crime was supported by about 20 domain registrars that deliberately violate <acronym title="Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers">ICANN</acronym> rules on whosis etc. so they started a campaign to get <acronym title="Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers">ICANN</acronym> to enforce its own rules, and close down the criminal registrars.</p>

<p>More info
<a href="http://www.knujon.com/news.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.knujon.com/news.html</a>
<a href="http://packetfocus.com/proactive/index.php" rel="nofollow">http://packetfocus.com/proactive/index.php</a></p>

<p>I found you because of a mutual contact on Linked In</p>]]></content:encoded>
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